At the time, there was a lot of discussion about the changes, both from the coaches directly and from others close to the program. Guys like Acree don't fit, and I do not think for a second that the "four defensive end" alignment that we heard about in the spring will be used at any time other than on passing down and distance plays.Guys like Zach McCray and JR Collins, while big enough to play DT in a pinch, are too long to really be effective on those interior stunts (that is one of the reasons that Nick Acree was never a favorite of Charley Wiles.). 20102023, Orange and Maroon Media, LLC. From the formation, they know the passing strength of the offense and based on that they will slide their respective alignments accordingly (still within the basic alignments defined by ball position). Hopefully he has a breakthrough year. The running back will see that the Stud has contain, and will not look to pull a "David Wilson" and make a break for the 8 gap. These coverages have the goal of taking away the crossing routes over the middle and the post route that is used to attack C2 defenses, but also keep a guy relatively close to the LOS to help with the run, or running QBs. In obvious passing situations, the Hokies would shift to a base 4-3-4 look by dropping the Whip as the second safety. The result is a 4-3 base that follows the general rules of alignment with the players sliding and rotating based on personnel group and passing strength. After that Boyd was able to find quick check downs due to loose coverage. This aggressive nature of the defense led to years with incredible tackles-for-loss numbers. When they face 21/22/12 personnel, theyll set up in the G front or Bear front most of the time. The formation is twins wide, so the passing strength is heavy to the wide side of the field. The boundary, field, and rover all have pass coverage. The Hokies showed a blitz up front, and Jayron showed a cover 3 look by bailing out and back pedaling before the snap. Great stuff as always French. "My advice to you is to start drinking heavily. Period. Likewise, the End, Backer, Boundary Corner, and Rover always align toward the short side of the field. Presented by, Click here to access all three parts of the Hokie Defense series by Raleigh Hokie. Meanwhile, passing downs allow the Hokies to easily switch the whip for a nickel back. He's had only two top-10 defenses this decade, but the Hokies are never weak on his side of the ball . Finally, the ball is snapped and the play runs to completion, most likely in five seconds or less. So, what does it look like when a Hokie fails to control a gap? If you can stop the run with six, the whip or backside safety doesn't have to commit so quickly. The results of these adjustments speak for themselves. For example, a 21 personnel group is two running backs, one tight end, and two wide receivers. Thanks! How many Hokies have become elite corners in the NFL? . Its heavy on blitzes from those two hybrid players. Because its Even, the Center is totally uncovered. And you can quote me on that shit!" In addition, they know the personnel group and the pre-snap formation. The Hokies play a base 4-3-4 defense, meaning that there are four defensive linemen, three linebackers and four defensive backs in the base set. A "gap" is an area of space on the field that the defensive player is responsible to "control." Also, because of the rather shorter depth of the Safeties, you can attack their run reads directly with a vertical route directly at them, like a Post or Go route up the seam. The entire defensive approach featured a bully mentality and a big play fervor. Stanford presents the most unique formula. When Virginia Tech plays Duke on Friday night (7 ET, ESPN/ESPN App), Foster will coach his 282nd game as the Hokies' defensive coordinator. When Frank Beamer coached under Bobby Ross, they ran the Wide Tackle 6, and he took that with him to VT. You cannot play straight M2M all the time. To the uneducated eye, the defense features two ends, two tackles, three linebackers, two safeties, and two corners just like a traditional NFL style 4-3, but Foster turns the 4-3 concept on its ear. This is absolutely an attacking defense where every player is expected to #1 maintain leverage/control their gap responsibility and #2 attack attack attack the ball carrier. couple that with (hopefully) some VERY strong dline recruits panning out, and landing dhand and/or brown next year, and it seems as if our defense is only going to get better and better, French-- in your opinion what position in the front 7 is the most important for a successful tech D. Also fwiw if tyler plays every play like those 2 video plays above its going to be hard to keep him off the field especially against gt. Virginia Tech football's defensive coordinator, Bud Foster, has been on the job for 18 years now, but he keeps revealing new layers of brilliance to show why he's the best defensive boss in. Note- things I was wrong about when I started this off: A) Backer is to the boundary. Foster used a simple solution. And you can quote me on that shit!" Also, stud 6'6 265 DE's who want to play in the NFL, not tie up linemen so linebackers make plays. They made popular the "G" front and took the 1985 Bears 46 defensive front as a compliment, which Tech would call the "Tuff" package. While they are both still hybrid type players, their responsibilities are more confined. I think they are well coached. I have no doubt this works against the Hokies in recruiting, but Foster also has archetypes he recruits to for his players. All original material and images are copyrighted by TechSideline.com and may not be reused or reprinted without permission. Am I getting overconfident that we'll be able to better compete with Clemson this year based on the following assumptions: from Clemson beat writer Greg Wallace via Andy Bitter: http://hamptonroads.com/2012/06/ask-another-teams-beat-writer-clemson. What I do see Tech doing is forcing opponents to keep the RB/TE in there to block by blitzing the WHIP often. At the time, the Whip and Rover were described as hybrid players that had combination linebacker/defensive back responsibilities. The design of the defense is set up to allow the Mike, Whip, or Stud DE to make the play. Steeles downfall came against spread-it-out, fast-paced systems like West Virginias. In the above play, Jayron Hosley backpedals to his deep third at the snap. Hosley was excellent enough to execute the design up there with the very best ball hawk the Hokies have had. Remember getting gashed repeatedly by just about everybody we played? Against an 8-man front, it was difficult for offenses to establish the run because there was generally one defender unaccounted for in the blocking scheme. Billy Hite. Depending on the formation, Rover can pick up the #1 receiver short and the FS comes down on the slot, with the CB still in deep half-field coverage behind.Whip aligns himself several ways, so you need a good football player here. this is the best stuff and why i love TKP .. i know that teams use our schemes against us in recruiting but i love how the giants and their smaller, more athletic dline core, is being looked at by coach bud. 5yltM;6#D"A.+|F'g"##PBG
Wi+5~ljx3!_YJ8a7p;[Bx$60FF8x\f@-. The middle backers have very little pass coverage responsibility, and spend significant time taking on blocks on the interior of a play. That gets us to the pre-snap look for second down. The stud end is outside eye of the tackle strong side, and the end is outside eye of the tackle on the weakside. Urban Meyer fell behind LSU and Alabama in recruiting, and magically his health is at risk and he gets out. The Whip blitzes hard from the 7 gap to fly through the 5 gap space. I love it anyway! As for tight ends, teams that play tight ends usually end up with the rover or free safety covering them. Combining elements from each scheme is what gives the 4-2-5 its versatility. Registered users can participate in the forum, post and vote on comments. For this example, here is a pre-snap diagram of a likely defensive set against a 12 personnel group (one RB, two TEs, two WRs). Call 1-800-GAMBLER. I understand explaining that might as well be another post but it would be facinating stuff. I have told anyone who would listen that I didn't like having Collins moved inside, and that if they did move him inside, he needed to get upfield and disrupt the full back/QB mesh point. "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby, I wish I could give you more legs. Actually Clemson's D is not going to be all that different than what it was last year except that Venable is simplifying it without all the checks and stuff. '+,,-/4443.4444444444 Id call both of them pseudo-Cover 3. The Tigers complete their season sweep of the Wolfpack. I'd like to see those guys like McCray playing more than thatespecially down the stretch with Clemson, fsu, and Miamifresh legs all round are a gOod thing.. McCray played more against UVA and Michigan than I thought he did, and he had some good pass rush (but he was usually second in the race behind another defender.). You can't develop an NFL caliber lineman. f
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Thekeyplay.com is not affiliated with Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University. VT shifts their G front to the Field side as well into a 4-3, whether its weak or strong, which gives them 3 fronts in the base package. Keeping the Whip closer to the line of scrimmage allows him to play more like a true linebacker, which helped an athlete like James Anderson flourish at the position. It was a very clever scheme because it could be adjusted to a pass oriented defense by slipping the two outside linebackers (the Whip and Rover) into coverage as defensive backs. The Chargers' defense ranked last in third-down conversion percentage (49.54%), 30th in rushing yards allowed per game (138.9), 30th in points allowed per game (27.0) and 23rd in yards allowed . After all, at Pry's introductory presser he noted he cut his teeth as a graduate assistant in the mid-90s under Foster. This often creates the illusion to the running back that there isn't backside pursuit, making the backside cutback to the 1 gap the logical place to go. The below diagram lays out a typical Hokie run blitz utilized to stop the zone run to the strong side out of an I formation. That is really the key to the front. I remember seeing our defensive philosophy torched about ten years ago. Often, in interviews with Bud Foster and other defensive coaches, you hear the term "gap fit" thrown around. Were tallish and relatively lean. Playing in a college system that emphasizes skillset diversity is actually a good thing. The end result of this 1st quarter play against UVA features Tyrell Wilson preventing the back from getting to the edge, the nose and tackle slant and fill their gaps, and Jack Tyler flies in on the blitz to make the play. Instead of taking on offensive linemen as a run stuffing linebacker, he was used more to play containment or run blitz off the edge. . Because of their Field/Boundary alignment philosophy, the same defenders do not always get matched on the same offensive players. pretty heavy on stunts and exchanges between the DL and LBs, Clemson Basketball Travels to NC State with Last Hope of NCAA Berth on the Line, Clemson Softball roars to fast start and high rankings. This is very important information that is communicated by the coaches in the booth to the coaches on the sideline. AZ, CO, CT, IL, IN, IA, KS, LA, (select parishes), MD, MI, NH, NJ, NY, OH, OR, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY, CA-ONT only.Eligibility restrictions apply. The one-gap 4-3 is a little more similar to the Hokies in that each defensive front 7 has gap responsibility, but in the NFL almost never does the radical stunting that the Hokies perform (the NFL lines are good enough to adjust and drive the stunting linemen off the ball.). To the uneducated eye, the defense features two ends, two tackles, three linebackers, two safeties, and two corners just like a traditional NFL style 4-3, but Foster turns the 4-3 concept on its ear. Eventually, the kids who see the NFL in their future realize that going to such a school hurts their chances. The defensive linemen get into the neutral zone, engage their blocker, secures their gap, and sheds the blocking using a "violent hand motion" (rip, swim, push-pull, or 45 technique). His initial alignment is quite often in the box, but he doesnt get up on the LOS as much as the WHIP. While the Hokies were able to win, Collins was a shell of himself until the bowl game after Georgia Tech, and I am convinced that was because he was so beat up. Shop fresh Hokies gear at TKP sponsor Homefield. Part 3 and the final installment of this series will be dedicated to pressure concepts and the more popular pass coverage sets used by Virginia Tech and many other teams around college and professional football. Part 1 covered some basic concepts, including a description for each defensive position. Every defensive player in the front seven has a "gap" responsibility in every defense that is called. Rece Davis. Fosters defense is always going to be well-coached, and being well-coached puts players where they need to be, but you still need some talent to beat better OLs even if the defenders are where they need to be. Aaron Rodgers, Kellen Moore, Andrew Luck all have great skills under pressure. Without the post-2003 adjustments, there would have been many plays where Rouse would have been isolated in man coverage against the slot receiver. The 60-year-old Foster, who has been with the Hokies since 1987 and has served as defensive coordinator since 1995, is currently the longest-tenured assistant coach in the FBS. This morning, I actually stumbled across a presentation that Bud Foster made to the AFCA back in 1999. With those 3-4 wide formations, they could isolate a quick, speedy receiver in man coverage against Techs Backer and Rover to the strong side of the formation. http://www.playbookexchange.net/playbooks/Defense/02060201-VirginiaTechAttack.pdf. . Does this really hurt us? - TheFifthFuller. Ultimately, we will see Maddy and Derek Hopkins starting, with Marshall coming in for Maddy on most passing downs. In the nineties, many teams tried to emulate Frank Beamer and defensive coordinator Bud Foster's scheme, with its premium on defenders stacking the line to either stop the run or scare the offense into abandoning it and apologizing for having considered such a silly idea. Some of the biggies are game situation, down and distance, ball position, and offensive personnel. To make that work, you still need to get pressure from the DL, and I think this has been one of VTs biggest issues on defense over the last few years. Former Coaching Staff: Where are they now? Your thoughts please. Everything I've read has Antoine starting next to his brother this fall. Join the community. The mike linebacker has no pass coverage responsibility in most of the Hokie defenses. Seems there were a lot of big plays in that game and during the year. Look at Florida under Urban Meyer. That's how good of a kid he is." The reason why they can adapt to spread offenses reasonably well is because of the player they put at the hybrid position. They have to get Maddy, Marshall, and McCray in there to dominate rather than having read and react play from Wilson and Collins (at tackle.). -Bud Foster. BLACKSBURG, Va. Even in retirement, Bud Foster casts a long shadow over the Virginia Tech football program. our dline is deep this season and will be dominant. All of those adjustments are made in real time by the players on the field. *:JZjz ? If he went out, Rover has him. They recruit nimble, short tackles, which you don't see in the NFL. The dominant defenses in Tampa Bay of the late 90's early 2000's allowed Warren Sapp and Simeon Rice to get up field as the method for controlling their gaps. The Stanford tight ends (who were all NFL caliber blocking tight ends) were then matched up with the weakest member of the Hokie front seven, in this case, Jeron Gouveia-Winslow. If those guys don't need much safety help, then the corners can take chances, bait QB's and mix in robber coverages to get turnovers. When the TE switches sides, usually the Backer flips spots with MIKE to cover him. TechSideline.com (a.k.a. For that reason, some teams found success by running weak side out of those spread formations. It is mostly combined with Man coverage and is pretty heavy on stunts and exchanges between the DL and LBs. The Hokies used a base 8-man front the majority of the time. So obviously if it doesn't work the scheme breaks down because it also means not being able to pressure the offense and the QB into poor decisions. I would argue we had bad match-ups of speed vs. speed. This column was more about the run defense, so I can work on drawing up some plays and video that shows how Clemson neutralized the Hokies in a future piece. With a 2-high safety base set, the Hokies can play a lot of different zone coverages (while still playing man coverage when they want), preventing offenses from dictating match-ups with their personnel groups and formations. The opinions of the author(s) on this site are independent and no way reflect the opinions of the Virginia Tech administrators, coaches, staff, or athletes. The FS himself will play Robber over the very middle of the field and watches the eyes of the QB to take away intermediate routes, yet against the run hes a 9th man in the area to fill a gap. Hopkins was hurt slanting if I remember correctly. Following Michael Cole's injury, Foster mostly used the old "46" alignment made famous by Buddy Ryan and the Chicago Bears. An 11 personnel group is one running back, one tight end, and three wide receivers. They've only had a few with an NFL frame, and none of them worked out. 3. Lets go through the sequence that takes place in the 20-30 seconds between the end of one play and the next snap. Since the scheme was tweaked, the Tech defense has finished ranked #4, #1, and #1 in the nation in total defense. If you compare how offensive schemes don't really hurt a recruits ability to make it to the NFL, why should a defensive scheme hurt us too? Based on what you guys are saying those type of players wouldn't fit into BF's scheme unless he's going to go to a more traditional 4-3. pretty cool to look back on it from time to time. The wide variety of stunts are designed to make backs read holes that are not there, causing them to run right into the mike or backer who have moved across the formation to meet the back in the hole. What do you mean by "radical stunting"? In a robber coverage, the safeties actually come forward at the snap while the corners bail out to a deep third. . Whip: The Whip (Kyle Fuller) lines up wide, but well to the inside of the slot. I still worry about the whip (watching film of the Stanford game will do that to a guy) and Maddy and Marshall have to take the next step. Rover always goes to the side of the passing strength (not necessarily the TE side) or the Field side, and WHIP always aligns opposite the Rover. In these cases why couldn't we stop the run? Going into last season, there was legitimate concern about Brenden Hill playing a position that had become more defined as a linebacker, but he proved that a player of his physical abilities could be productive as a Whip as well if he handled his assignments correctly. Normally, it will be one of the linebackers that will communicate any adjustments to the defensive front call or blitz call. The adjustment from one set to the other depends on the alignment of the Rover. Shop fresh Hokies gear at TKP sponsor Homefield. Registered users can participate in the forum, post and vote on comments. The number of wide receivers is derived from the combination of those two numbers. Tackle: The Tackle (Derrick Hopkins) lines up as a 3 technique, outside eye of the backside guard. Bud Foster received national recognition for the way his Bear defense surprised and shut down Urban Meyer's vaunted spread rushing attack in 2014. Again, the tackle will rarely be in position to make the tackle, but must minimally plug up the gap, causing the back to look to cut back to the 1 gap. His upside is higher than Collins, but Collins is a much more instinctual player at this point. What is a Cover-2 and how does it differ from a Cover-3? Offensive schemes do the same. In other words, without changing the base personnel, it was a scheme that could adjust play to play from a run stopping 8-in-the-box set to a strong pass stopping set with five defensive backs (Whip, Rover, Field Corner, Boundary Corner, Free Safety). "I think one of the biggest reasons actually was Steeles defense. The offense goes through its gyrations to get a better pre-snap read and the defense adjusts accordingly. The Whip slides over in a defensive back alignment over the inside receiver. The tackle will cross the face of the guard and the center, and fill the 2 gap, originally vacated by the Nose. I don't have the time to cover them all, but this is a pressure-based defense. Today, a look at some of the pass rush and blitz packages utilized in Bud Foster's Gap Defense As discussed in "A Look Back at the Hokie Wide Tackle Six Defense" , Virginia Tech rose to defensive dominance running an 8-man front which allowed the Hokies to blitz from multiple angles. Bud Foster is the former longtime Virginia Tech Defensive Coordinator where he spent 33 seasons coaching. His number was 46. http://www.orangeandwhite.com/news/2012/jan/21/swinney-hired-venables-br OT: "The Mandalorian" S3 discussion thread (feat. Watching film of South Carolina against Clemson, South Carolina absolutely manhandled the Clemson OL, the same OL that manhandled the Hokies in the 2nd half of the ACC CG. We play three different packages: G, T u f f and FD/ST-G. Our G package is our base defense. Simple. Meanwhile, Dwayne Allen would come BEHIND the line against the grain of the play and pop out the weak side. Love the in-depth analysis. The players have to be extremely strong, tough and physical and they have to enjoy full force contact against other guys that are just as big, just as strong, and just as tough. Even the best (Brown- moved to LB, Worilds- moved to LB, Tapp- non-descript backup, Engleberger-bust, Moore- bust, Price- nada) didn't make an impact. Virginia Tech Hokies football, basketball, athletics blog and forum featuring: unique columns, breaking news, film studies, in-depth analysis, recruiting, videos and jokes. What may not be as obvious is that football is equally challenging mentally. This is especially true for the Whip LB, who no longer drops back as a deep safety in any situation. Playing more of the defense it ran under former coordinator Bud Foster, the unit turned in a markedly better performance against the high-powered Hurricanes in Saturday's 25-24 loss. Upvoted. James Anderson is the only Hokie alumni who is a starter in the front 7 of an NFL team. But the biggest thing is probably the QB ability to react quickly to the pressure (a key part of the Hokie D). The Tigers first-half offensive struggles were too much to overcome in a 64-57 loss. If one DL gets blown out of the hole, it creates problems for every other defender. When things went well, a Hokie game featured numerous sacks, tackles for losses, interceptions, and the band wearing out the theme from Empire Strikes Back. WHIP often creeps up because he usually gets a 1 on 1 matchup with the RB in coverage. Thoughts? It will be a 4-3. http://www.orangeandwhite.com/news/2012/jan/21/swinney-hired-venables-br. One thing that the Hokies will have to do is be able to beat their press coverage on our receivers like what happened when D.J. 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